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Ted Nugent for President!
Take a listen to this interview.
http://www.klru.org/texasmonthlytalks/archives/nugent/intro.asp
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The irony is two-fold then, because without the Second Amendment rights, the First Amendment rights would no longer exist. Look in the history books.
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Well, in all actuality, possession of firearms enabled the colonists to take the stand for independence. Without the means (weapons) and will to drive home the point, the Declaration of Independence would have done nothing more than incite the British to teach the colonists a lesson.
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Agreed!
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Cando,your post brought this thought to mind: Responsibility. It was much more the credo back then than now. Take a look at the way celebrity rules our Nation more than good sense. We spend our time glued to the latest productions that Hollyweird throws our way, buy into any spin on news stories brought to us by mass media, and refuse to hold people accountable because it wouldn't be politically correct.
Is the ideal of freedom lost on this generation? No, they love freedom. Freedom to do whatever, whenever. Take a look at YouTube, Break, and all the rest of the .coms that display the willingness to do whatever comes to mind.
Lack of responsibility is fast becoming the norm. When you see people unwilling to correct their own children's behavior in public, when you see elected public officials disregard the laws they're sworn to uphold, when people expect the government to bail them out of every unpleasant situation, and when you see individuals unwilling to help their neighbor...do you ever wonder what happened to the idea that we all are expected to be 'responsible' in our very being? To ourselves, our friends, our society? Voting is a good example, because the very priviledge of voting used to mean something to Americans. Now less than half, and probably even fewer, actually vote. I have heard people say that "it makes no difference, anyway".
I think that we are losing America a little more every year to that kind of thinking. It becomes more apparent when few claim "American" as their nationality, and more and more claim "_________-American" (you fill in the blank). Once upon a time, before hyphenation, we were united. I love this Nation, but I can't help but see hard times ahead. Debt, both individual and governmental, is defining our existence more and more. Again, freedom and responsibility...it comes full circle: Ignore one, eventually lose the other.
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Cando, it is good to know that there are still a few of us that haven't bought into the leftist ideology. You are a very learned man, no doubt on every possible opportunity heralding the very ideas that enabled the creation of these States. Which brings me to the next point, state's rights. As our States lose more power to the Federal government, through increased reliance on funding and direction, and decreased independence, we'll see more occurrences of what we saw in Louisiana when Katrina hit. People, knowing a hurricane was about to hit, did nothing, and waited on "the government" instead of taking action on their own. After the winds died down, more of the same pathetic cries for help, with nothing being done to help themselves. Why? Most of our States have helped create this "entitlement society" where individuals that are not willing to work are given the same (or better) treatment as the person working two jobs, saving money for a brighter tomorrow. It is seen throughout our society these days.
Just yesterday, some co-workers were discussing kids' sports, in which everything had to be FAIR and there were no winners or losers. "But it is better for their inner development", as one parent said. Hogwash! Winners win, losers lose. Learn to do both, and do both graciously...but develop a distaste for the latter.
That I live in Texas is a fact of which I am proud. Recent legislation re-confirmed that I have the right to defend myself, my family, and my property...and to do so without cowering.
[Article by Ed Stoddard
DALLAS (Reuters) - Criminals in Texas beware: if you threaten someone in their car or office, the citizens of this state where guns are ubiquitous have the right to shoot you dead.
Governor Rick Perry's office said on Tuesday that he had signed a new law that expands Texans' existing right to use deadly force to defend themselves "without retreat" in their homes, cars and workplaces.
"The right to defend oneself from an imminent act of harm should not only be clearly defined in Texas law, but is intuitive to human nature," Perry said on his Web site.
The new law, which takes affect on September 1, extends an exception to a statute that required a person to retreat in the face of a criminal attack. The exception was in the case of an intruder unlawfully entering a person's home.
The law extends a person's right to stand their ground beyond the home to vehicles and workplaces, allowing the reasonable use of deadly force, the governor's office said.
The reasonable use of lethal force will be allowed if an intruder is:
- Committing certain violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault, or is attempting to commit such crimes
- Unlawfully trying to enter a protected place
- Unlawfully trying to remove a person from a protected place.
The law also provides civil immunity for a person who lawfully slays an intruder or attacker in such situations.
Texas joins several other states including Florida that have or are considering similar laws.
Sympathy for violent offenders and criminals in general runs low in Texas, underscored by its busy death row. The state leads the United States in executions with 388 since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976 by the U.S. Supreme Court.
A conservative political outlook and widespread fondness for hunting also means Texans are a well-armed people capable of defending themselves with deadly force.
It is easy to acquire guns over the counter in Texas and lawful to carry a concealed handgun with a permit.]
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Again, I agree.
As for our current involvement in distant lands: The military is the hammer weilded by politicians, who are SUPPOSED to be acting in the Nation's best interest. But what I see, is a case of Manifest Destiny gone awry. Because our President feels that every country around the world would be better served by a democratic government, we are trying to force-fit countries that are either not ready and/or willing to do so. I think that this is where we're, or at least our leaders, are missing the point.
Democracies worth their salt have always sprung up from within, and never has a successful democracy been forced from without.
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Joel,
to add to my argument that the Middle East region is either not ready or just plain unwilling to accept true democracy, I submit that democracy has its roots in Christian theology. Whether the leftists, agnostics and atheists think so or not, the great majority of the Founding Fathers believed in God, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ. So therefore, the creation of "One Nation under God" was not just some spin that they created to con people into the sacrifices that would come with war with Britain. It was the basis of the belief that God had brought them to the time and place in which they could cast off the distant rule and oppression of a then-foreign government.
Paul's journeys in the Bible are another clue that we should leave the Middle East alone and concentrate on our homeland. The Holy Spirit, the Bible reads, prevented Paul from travelling East on his Evangelistic missions.
Isolationism is an idea that may never be implemented again, short of the aftermath of a nuclear cataclysm.
Globalism is so rampant that I feel lucky if I pick up an item in Walmart and it reads "Made in the USA". Sam would roll over in his grave. If the United States wasn't on the short end of the stick (of trade), I might feel different. But we are losing more and more of our interests (to include our own soil)to foreign entities, whether they be government, corporate, or individual. In most countries that we deal with, it is illegal for a foreigner to buy land. But not here...take a look around.
I guess that's enough to get my blood moving this morning.
Y'all have a great day as an American.
Mark
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Joel, I know what you mean. Hey, if we had a few hundred million dollars, the Presidency is opening up soon...
By the way...even though the site injected the " " into DeLolme's name, the Swiss didn't find him that funny, obviously.
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Swiss officials in the 1700s really didn't care much for views that didn't align with their own. We've seen the same thing in our time.
I'd like to regress for a moment to the social contract theory. I haven't seen the show, as there is very little television worth watching, but there is one where kids run a town comprised solely of kids. Obviously, each kid brings with them different teachings, values and mores. I'm curious of how different this newest generation would develop the social contract that would enable any sense of community. Would it reflect the worst or best of our society? Hobbes, if I remember my college days correctly, wrote that in order for a society to live at peace, every member of that society would have to be subservient to an authority figure, and do so willingly. If a society didn't recognize a given authority, even though that authority figure couldn't be held accountable, then total chaos would result. If we pattern the kids' town after our own political system, it would definitely take on a Machiavellian feel.
Okay, it's late, we just got back from a rodeo, and my wife is questioning my sanity for sitting here typing this late at night, so I'll bid you adieu for tonight.
Peace be with you, my friends.
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Joel,
If you ever find yourself in North Texas, I'll buy the coffee! My travelling days are few now that I've taken off the uniform...and I like it that way. I have been here for seven years, definitely the longest I have lived anywhere since I joined the Air Force back in 84.
Mark
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Better tried by twelve than carried by six...any day. And remember, dead men tell no lies.
As for taking weapons from the elderly, that's a foul! Unless they are forced to live in an assisted-living type facility, where someone else would take care of security issues, the elderly have every right to defend themselves and their property. A random age picked by some liberal, anti-gun beaurocrat who bases the decision on his/her personal belief/experience is just wrong! As long as we free citizens of this great country show no reason for limiting our rights (such as felony convictions), no limitations should exist. A medical authority's decision that one is incapable of driving is usually taken at face value, but, short of suggesting that an elderly person's family should intervene when gun ownership is deemed unsafe, who exactly do you propose do the dirty work of policing these people? Another beaurocrat, especially created to do so? Well, why not raid everyone's homes then? Why not put swastikas and SS paraphenalia on them and say that their mission is to protect the country?
NO! KThompson, we've seen your type thinking destroy nations and countless lives. It is freedom, and the freedoms granted in our dear Constitution, that have secured our continued success as a Nation. Until we give up those rights...
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[Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. ]
Even though the Ninth Amendment reads "shall not", this IS exactly what is happening. Not only the rights not enumerated, but inalienable rights as well.
[We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. --Declaration of Independence]
Our votes do not always provide the needed change in our government...especially when the masses are only interested in someone else protecting them, when they take no responsibility for their actions, and when normative social mores continue to sink in a dismal swamp of political correctness. But we must do what we can, vote, make our elected officials aware of our intent to hold them accountable for misrepresentation, and to pray that we make it another day as a Nation. But I guarantee you that other great nations have fallen due to the apathy of their people, and we may as well (God forbid) unless we wake up from this materialistic values-based Disneyland that we are becoming, or have become.
I love this Nation. I love her people. I continue to serve her military daily. I vowed to freely give my life for her every time I enlisted for 20 years. I see a small portion of her sons and daughters doing the same today...and they're seriously underappreciated for their commitment. Our freedom is a serious issue. If you've watched the movie V for Vendetta, you've seen a work of fiction that could easily become reality. Every time we do not stand up to greater restrictions of our personal liberty, we inch ever closer to the totalitarian society depicted in the movie and seen in Nazi Germany and Maoist China.
Okay, that's my rant for today.
Y'all have a blessed day as American free men and women.
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Joel,
I definitely hope that my last post did not sound as if I condone any violent overthrow of an elected government. The change I propose is a change brought about by the action of responsible voting by our citizens. To do so would mean that we must be willing to become more informed and be willing to hold our elected officials responsible by denying them further terms in office. Our career politicians, which I believe was never meant by our Founding Fathers to be the case, are farther afield the longer they are in office...and that is a terrible fact.
Regrettably, much legislation is from the courts nowadays, as a precedent set in higher courts as de facto law.
Mark
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News story about Australia's Prime Minister John Howard:
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. 'If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you', he said on National Television
'I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option', Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should 'clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off', he said.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'
'However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia .' 'However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.' 'This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.'
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like 'A Fair Go', then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.
America Needs Leadership Like This!
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No, I didn't know that.
I do not propose that the Aussies have anything better than we do. The stand that immigrants assimilate the values of the nation they're moving to is what I was pointing out. This is by far not the opinion of the whole of Australia...just the opinion of their leader.
We have hashed this out a lot, and we all know that economics drives the willingness to communicate in foreign languages, so the point is probably moot. The fact that one man in that position actually made a stand that wasn't PC is probably the only real story here. But it's a nice one.
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